We bought our house in 2004 and I put in top of the line LG washer and dryer. I think on sale at Fry’s, they were about $1200 each. I was deciding between Bosch and LG because I wanted “quiet” as they are quite close to my kitchen where everyone dwells. I regret not choosing the Bosch, I can’t totally remember why I didn’t but Bosch has endured some mold complaints too. Not nearly as many as LG though.
My experience: Anyway, as you can see in the photo we have been fighting a disgusting mold problem. That’s the mold stain left on the plastic rim or gasket around the door of my LG washer. I called LG about a year ago and the told me that to just use bleach and keep the door open when not in use. Wipe the entire washer down after each use. What? The gasket has folds that you have to squeeze a towel into or use a Q-Tip. That’s not a practical way to fly. At least once a month, I accidentally leave a load in overnight. I’m busy and I forget. Or sometimes I forget for a few hours. That has to be semi normal behavior. Keep in mind that until May of this year, this was my vacation house. The washer wasn’t used all that much and was wiped down before we left for long periods of time. I mean people keep washer/dryers in their vacation homes, right? The mold problem has gotten much worse over the last few months. La Jolla Dad finally took notice and is not happy.
A year or two ago, I did call LG to complain. The woman at the time was very nice and told me that the problem could be solved by using a bleach/water dilution on the washer gasket. In my case, that didn’t help so much. The mold quickly comes back because there are too many small crevices for the mold to breed in. The water pools up at the door after each wash. The woman also told me (which they denied ever mentioning today) that this was more or less a design flaw that has since been rectified in later washer models. But, there was nothing they can do because the washer was out of warranty. La Jolla Dad called today and was told the same thing – that we should wipe it down and use bleach. They denied mentioning the “design flaw” probably to avoid compensation.
Class Actions: I’m allergic to some kinds of mold, not to mention the thing stinks so we’re replacing the washer with a different brand. As I was angrily researching a new washer, I noticed that mold in a front loader is common in particular brands. In fact, there are many class action lawsuits brewing about it:
LG Class Action
Whirlpool Duet Class Action
People are kicking up a fuss about mold in the Kenmore Elite front loading washer but I’m not sure if there’s a class action. There are also other class actions for washers that have perpetual error codes and other issues. Obviously, do your research before you join one.
If you have mold in your washer: The first thing you should do is contact the manufacturer. Odds are, you’re out of warranty though. Some people have reported success with a product called Affresh High Efficiency Washer Cleaner. The manager at LG said to use it over and over and over again “until it hurts” but that it may not work for everyone. Affresh has helped us manage the mold, until we decide what to do. It does work, but it’s going to cure the problem, possibly because our washer is dire. I’ve also tried Washer Magic
with no success. If there is mold in the gasket, you can also try replacing it. That’s not really going to solve the problem unless you’re really diligent about maintenance. I’ve read that once the mold appears, it’s really hard to totally get rid of, which has been my experience.
Why does mold build up in front loaders: Front load washers typically use less water so the dirt, grime, detergents, etc. do not always fully drain out. Using cold water versus hot can also exacerbate the problem. Hot water (less efficient) kills bacteria better than cold. It is SO DIFFICULT to fully dry my LG front loader after use and it isn’t practical to leave the door open, due to it’s location. You also MUST use low sudsing HE detergents or cut back on regular detergents. Leftover suds are tough to drain and contribute to the mold problem.
We haven’t decided which make and model washer to buy next, but should know within a day or so. My main decision is whether or not to risk another front load washer or just go to top load. My bottom line is that we’re busy and I won’t always remember to take out the wet laundry right away. It’s wasteful to be using numerous paper towels (I’m not getting gunk on cloth ones) every time I wipe the washer out. It’s quite a process, actually.
Hope this info can help if you have mold in your washer. If you have a washer that you LOVE, I’d LOVE to know about it.





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Twitter: AngryJulie
December 28, 2009 at 10:09 am
That’s funny about the 2004 thing. That’s when we bought ours too. Our extended warranty expired in August. We did not renew. I think we’ve had our washer and dryer serviced at least 3x each. We’ve used bleach, Simple Green, special products for HE washers, we’ve cleaned the bottom drain, you name it, we’ve done it. I will buy a top loader next time. And leaving the door open, that’s just dumb. Who wants to leave the washing door open 24/7?
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December 28, 2009 at 10:12 am
Seriously, I’m just upset because I shouldn’t have to spend $$ on a new washer right now. I think ours is too far gone to save, especially with my mold allergy. Am looking at top loaders.
Stopping by from SITS today, just got home from the gym too! Very informative post. I have been wanting to replace my washer/dryer and will not be looking at front loaders now. Would be very interested to know what you decide to get. Have a joyfilled Monday!
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December 28, 2009 at 10:16 am
Same thing here. We have a Bosch front loader and while I don’t see a lot of mold, I smell it! We do leave the door open but haven’t tried the bleach or cleaner route yet, thanks for the tips! With the exception of this problem, I really do prefer the front loader (we switched from the a top loader around two years ago) but this is a big problem. Also having problems with our Bosch front load dryer.
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Interesting information about washer. Thanks. Stopping in from SITS. Great blog.
Mary
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That stinks! I’m going to ask my mom if she has a problem with hers. I’m not sure what brand she had though. I hope something comes out of the class action for you!
Swinging by from SITS!
Twitter: beths_confusion
December 28, 2009 at 10:42 am
We are having the same problem with ours & mold actually got on a table cloth. I was NOT pleased because the general idea of a frontloader was so appealing–conserves energy & extra large loads. BUT it’s useless if mold accumulates & we’ve done everything to remove it or keep it away. Awful & we do all the tips but it still doesn’t help.
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December 28, 2009 at 12:58 pm
We’re having the exact same problem! I just tried to run an emtpy load to get rid of the smell. ARGH!
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I blogged about this- HATE my Kenmoore Elite. Your post is so true! I despise mine. Never pays to spend a lot of money on appliances, as you need to replace them in about 5 years anyway!
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December 28, 2009 at 2:18 pm
I have never heard of this! Thanks for sharing!
Twitter: dlandmom
December 28, 2009 at 10:56 pm
He have a front loader that we purchased in 2006. Same disgusting problem. It makes me angry. I have a frigidaire. I’m going to look into the class action lawsuits and see if there are any.
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December 28, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I just received my new GE front loader washer and dryer yesterday and have only washed one load, but I love it so far. We had heard about the mold issue on front loaders, namely LG, so we avoided all the brands that we heard were the worst. The particular GE model we bought was named best value from Consumer Reports and from many other reviews we read.
Here is the particular model we bought: http://bit.ly/2Je9U
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December 29, 2009 at 7:36 am
Thanks Aimee! I hope the washer/dryer work for you – get a stash of Affresh or something to keep it clean. I subscribe to consumer reports and use it all the time for things.
Just started to look tonight regarding the mold problems with Front In Loaders. We have a GE that we purchased in 06, and yes we have a mold and smell issue. We have tried it all and nothing seems to work. We have left the door open for over a year now and still the mold.
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December 28, 2009 at 11:46 pm
This mold issue has bothered me for years. I’ve tried to clean it with no luck. I am so joining the class action for the Whirlpool – thanks for the post. Good stuff. Sending it to my mom, who has the same problem, and just bought a two new LG’s! Great.
Twitter: sbshortie
December 30, 2009 at 12:21 am
We have always had top-load washers! What is the benefit to having a front-load one?? I like ours!
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I have the Kenmore Elite. Have not had issues like yours but it does get dirty when I am not diligent about cleaning it. I use the affresh tablets on a regular basis…thanks for the reminder just threw one in there.
Our law firm is involved in the cases against Whirlpool and LG that you mentioned in your post. In addition, we wanted to let you know that we have similar lawsuits against Bosch, Kenmore, and Maytag. If anyone has contacted you with problems with any of the above washing machines, you can give them our direct contact information. Phone: 312-220-0000 Email: info@freedweiss.com. Our Website is http://www.freedweiss.com, where you can find more information about the other cases against washing machine manufacturers.
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January 29, 2010 at 10:39 am
We have a Kenmore Elite HE4T. We typically get mold in the fabric softener dispenser cup. Same problem when we had a Frigidaire front loader at our old house. Never had the issue with mold on the door gasket, though.
I had a kenmore front loader HE 3 I think it was, a very expensive present to myself, top rated by Consumer reports magazine , after 1 and 1/2 years of use and out of warranty I noticed funky smell on all clothes, endless calls to sears (yes we know of the problem, its a design problem with HE machines, all water does not drain out, try a bleach and hot water solution etc.) nothing worked smell got worse and worse this was before Afresh even hit the market. We got rid of the machine and bought a regular old fashioned top loader and guess what no smell after 2 years!! I will never, Ever buy a front loader again. They may look fancy, but every time I am in a relative’s house that has one I seek out the washing machine and sniff for mold smell and guess what even in the homes with daily paid housekeepers the SMELL is there. Never be fooled into buying a front loader, those washing machine cleaners just mask the odors of a problem that will always be there due to design flaws.
The thing is, molds breeding in front load washers is commonplace. That is due to the washer’s horizontal axis drum that does not completely drain off water. Fighting off molds is much easier if you run enzymes together with an empty lukewarm water cycle. Do this right after using your washing machine. Bleach does not work all the time and it might cause a musty smell to permeate from your washer.
that affressh works well but there is also something on the market called smelly washer which has been highly praised for it’s power to get rid of the smell in our washers
Usually leaving the door open when the machine is not in use is always good to avoid mold, and also keep it fresh.
We have a Kenmore washer/dryer front loaders (2005)…love them!! NEVER ANY MOLD…However, my mother’s LG (2009) is a nightmare! Have gone all the way to Consumer Affairs Bureau of Electronic & App. repair…it is a design defect…have just contacted a class action law group. Leaving washer door open, using expensive products, pumping out the standing water does nothing…as you all know…and it is not only useless, but dangerous with small children to leave the door open. Unfortunately, we were just told that LG now makes Kenmores….go figure.
Great to read this site.
I bought a BOSCH (expensive) NEXXT about 4-5 years ago.
People have to know there is good with the bad with these front loaders. I have had terrible problems with the mold. Have tried everything, however by time I realized what was happening the mold has already permanently stained the rubber. I agree with the point made that there is not always time to take a load out right away and always the time to wipe the whole thing down. It’s easy to wipe where the water pools in the bottom, but the mold in my machine goes around the entire circle and is in some very tight spots to get at.
Other problems with front loaders: The clothes can get all tangled, especially if you have anything with ties or belts attached to the clothes. This is time consuming to untangle after every wash. The cycle takes twice as long as a top loader. My machine (on the dispenser) indicates to use 2/3 to 1 cup – which was way too much – took 2 hours to run! Called the company and was told to use 2 Tablespoons! – big difference there in their instructions. Also, no one can tell me the savings on water makes up for the fact the machine needs to run twice as long AND twice as hard during the super spin RPM. It also often needs to run a second time because upon opening the machine the clothes are still soaked!!!
I would never buy a front loader again.
Another product to help control odors of mold & mildew in your washer & clothes is TechnoFresh . They gauranty it to work . Have ordered some but have not used yet . Website is , http://www.TechnoFresh.net .
I’m going back to a top loader next time since the new top loaders are better are competitive with the pros of front loaders. If clothes are left in a closed front loader after washing for a few days, the clothes smell amazingly bad even if the door was never opened exposing the clothes to air. I guess I’ll be doing vinegar wipes for the life of this washer. Otherwise my Whirlpool works well butI don’t like the detergent dispenser as it has seemed to have flooded a few times.
Our LG front load washer has smelled almost since we bought it 1 1/2 years ago. Our clothes have a horrible musty smell to them even with taking them out right away. Has anyone found a way to get the musty smell out of the clothes once it is there? Have tried the home remedies to keep the mold out of the washer and left the door open but, now after reading comments will try the store bought products. Pursuing the class action suits after trying to get the manufacturer to help with no luck.
I’ve had the same front loader for 13 years with no real problems, and it’s the “class action” neptune washer. As it is for millions of people in europe front loaders are quite simple; take the wash out as soon as you can, don’t over soap, the door only needs to be slightly ajar, run a washer cleaner through it from time to time, do a few loads on hot with bleach every week or so….
If they were so bad why are they soooo popular?!
Twitter: lajollamom
July 6, 2011 at 7:17 am
I wonder if there is something different about some (I know you have the Neptune) of the European models. I had a front loader for 7 years when living in Hong Kong and London that never, ever had a mold problem. And I did not always leave the door open. I hadn’t owned a front loader previously, so didn’t know to do so!
Same deal washer smells bad if ya leave the door shut. Cleaned the rubber gasket in front. Disgusting. Still we shouldn’t have to do this How do we get in in the class action lawsuit. My husband has already replaced both of the solenoids to pump out the water. Thanks for any help
I too am trouble with mold in the rubber gasket of my Maytag. I have sprayed with bleach directly, ran cycles with bleach etc… I have affresh on order. The mold is stain is still there. I am so concerned as I have a child who has allergy issues. I just want to know if the mold is actually killed, even though the stains remain?
Twitter: lajollamom
December 26, 2011 at 10:33 pm
My mold stain is still there too. I just did a quick online search because I’d like to know the answer to your question. It does seem that there is some confusion between mold stain (having mold actually on the gasket) and the mold stain that you and I are talking about (where there is no actual mold left, just the black stain that’s left behind). I apologize that I did not find anything conclusive but will look into it!
Thank you! I can’t find any info either. I just want to know if it is safe to use my washer, especially for my kids.
I think government regulations may have as much to do with the problems we’re having with our washing machines than most people realize. It’s been quite an eye opener as I’ve been in the hunt for a new machine. I never had problems with my washing machine smelling like mold until recently and I’ve been doing laundry for 35 years. I asked a repairman about the smell I was noticing. He said mold in the washing machines started to become a big problem when the government put regulations on the laundry detergent to be phosphate free. He told me to find a laundry booster with phosphates in it. He suggested I leave the lid open when not in use and use the hottest water setting on the hot water heater about once a week and put in a load of whites or something just to keep the mildew in check. He said too often the hot water we use isn’t very hot. Adding bleach in with hot water is supposed to be helpful as well. He also said to use powdered detergent versus liquid. I feel like it kind of fell in the lap of the washing machine industry and now they are battling a big problem. Not that it’s a bad thing for them to try to remedy the problem from their end but solutions and changes take time. On top of that the government recently regulated how much water can be used to wash clothes with. The tub on the top loaders can only fill about half way up, if that, and the machines have sensors that decide how much water will be used depending on what the wash load is. Consequently, it’s taking far far longer to get the clothes clean than it used to. There are many consumers who are angry and frustrated. I can imagine it will take some trial and error to finally get it right on all fronts, meanwhile the consumers suffer and the manufacturers have to put out a lot of money to reinvent the wheel at a time when industries are struggling anyway. Two different appliance salesman told me the washing machines now days are built to last 10 years of doing 8 loads of laundry a week versus the ones that I used to depend on lasting 25 plus years. Apparently Speed Queen is getting away with offering a top loader that fills almost as full as it used to and uses manual dials that allow you to select your own settings. This may be the last year they can offer the machine. The washing machine industries definitely need to get their act together and start making quality machines again but I also feel that it’s wrong for a handful of people in the government to make big decisions that affect what manufacturers and consumers can and cannot do. Wouldn’t it be better to work on new technology and let the public that is interested in it test it out but meanwhile continue to make what consumers will really buy and use until they have a good replacement? I know there are areas of our country where water is a big issue and I can see the value in water efficient machines. I choose to live out in the country where water is plentiful. I believe in taking care of the planet but I’m really getting tired of government regulating my life. I have never owned a front load machine. I came online to do some research on them. I’m quite discouraged about getting a new machine of any kind at this point. My top load needs replacing unless I want to pay the price of a new machine to get it repaired. It’s very very temping.
I have a Bosch Front Loader. I have health issues with mold and mildew. As soon as I realized there was mold forming on the gasket, I contacted the company. I was told the same as others, wipe it out with bleach.
Because of my sensitivity to mold and mildew, I wash our clothes with detergent and add ½ cup of white vinegar to all wash loads. Vinegar has been proven to kill mold and mildew. Vinegar goes in EVERY wash load.
The last load of my wash day is towels and they are washed with chlorine bleach added during the bleach cycle.
The door to our washer is always left open. I spray the drum, the gasket and the space where water collects with a bleach solution after use. I usually wipe the face of the machine’s door off with a paper towel. I have had my house checked for mold and mildew issues. It is clear except for the washing machine. I run air cleaners in several rooms of the house, including the laundry area. My house is designed so that there are open passageways into the laundry on two sides. It is a well ventilated room and has good air exchange.
I hate this machine. I would like to know more about your law suit and be included if at all possible.
Marlene
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